Jerryhao 和娃娃妈妈在 MSN上的对话。

szanny

忽然想起来说一句，不知道有没跑题：从我接触过的人来讲，左脑发达的人也是非常非常优秀的，并且更容易在社会上成为所谓的“成功人士”，而右脑发达的人则更适合进行学术类的工作，并在这种领域取得成功，因为就我的印象，右脑人士们好象都比较懒于或者不善于应付复杂的人际关系。

linkspeed

一、 广博的知识，二、 数学方面：三、 阅读理解：四、 健康的体魄：五、 音乐方面
六、 专题研究：七、 掌握多语种：八、 品德：九、 不断自我竞争，不断超越自我。

个人认为这个消息有点吹.
我一直在想为什么doman已经存在40年了, 但是没有推广的那么人人皆知.
好象和他宣称的神奇有点不符.

有没有人认真的想过这一点?

天问

pharmacist+-->引用:pharmacist 是啊天问，我也有一个记忆跟你分享。......

理想的破灭是痛苦的，一代人在痛苦中长大.....希望我们孩子这一辈能比我们以及我们的长辈更好。

天问

linkspeed+-->引用:linkspeed 个人认为这个消息有点吹.

宣传推广嘛，当然要夸大一点。 <p align="center"> 这就是广告 　　某位传媒广告大亨不幸病死，他来到天堂的入口，这是圣彼德出来迎接。 　　“先生，鉴于您对在世界范围内传播知识所作的贡献，我们给您选择去天堂或地狱的权力。”接着彼德一挥手，大亨面前出现了两个画面：这是一个很大的空间，一片恼人的白色，不光老人，连年轻人也都死气沉沉，没有活力，一派萧条。另一边则是一片斑斓的色彩，人人的脸上都洋溢着满足的笑容。一派繁华兴旺的景象。“白色是天堂，彩色的是地狱。您选择吧！”彼德悠然说道。 　　大亨当然是个精明的人，他不加思索的回答：“地狱！当然是去地狱！” 　　“您肯定？” 　　“当然！还用问吗？” 　　“噢，就这样决定吧！”彼德一挥手离开了大亨。这时突然冲出6个小鬼，一把抬起大亨就奔向一口滚烫的油锅。 　　大亨大叫：“为什么和我看到的完全不同！！骗子！” 　　“因为你看到的是广告！”彼德头也不回的走了

linkspeed

>宣传推广嘛，当然要夸大一点。

光是这样看，不够深入。我看到的是以下几个问题

1。孩子幼时的出色和长大以后的出色 是需要分开考虑的2件事情。
2。doman的不流行是否可以给我们一点启发，就是除了doman
     以外，我们还应该做什么，思考什么？（这里只讲学习，不包括
     性格道德等等的教育，把那些加进来就没边了。）
3。doman方法就学习方面的缺陷是什么？

这样思考是否可以给我们一个比较全面的蓝图？是否好过简单的否定
和肯定？

我在四处寻找有关doman孩子长大以后的消息。抛砖引玉。

linkspeed

Check this:

Message 10 in thread
From: Christopher Biow (biow@ezmort.com)
Subject: Re: Glenn Doman

  
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
Date: 1997/07/14


nelson <nelson@nucth.hep.upenn.edu> wrote:

>Would anybody like to tell me their experience with "How to teach your
>baby to read" by Glenn Doman? Thanks,

Doman is probably the most well publicized pseudoscientist in the field of
child development. Check for a review by Terence Hines in
Skeptical_Inquirer 19:5, Sept 95. He is without bona fide credentials in
the field, he founded his theories upon grossly mistaken ideas about
neuroanatomy, and he refused to allow skeptical review or evaluation of his
"results" by child development researchers.

The best that can probably be said for Glenn Doman is that he is a nice,
well-intentioned man, whose system probably causes no great harm if not
taken to foolish extreme. It should be noted that he is not affiliated with
the "National Academy for Child Development" of Robert J. Doman Jr., which
may or may not be a reputable organization.

linkspeed

This caught my eye.  I AM a Glenn Doman baby.  My mum taught my to read
using his methods in 1966, when I was two.  My reading was the byproduct
-- big brother was having a hard time reading at school, so she started
coaching him at home.  Apparently I hung around and next thing you know I
was reading.  

I still have fond memories of sitting acorss the room from my mum, seeing
her hold up a big flashcard with the word "Daddy" on it in big red
letters.  

Anyway, learning to read early did me no harm developmentally.  i was
always at the top of my class.  But it did mean I was different from
everyone else at school, and I found the early grades kind of dull.  I
have a baby myself now.  Don't think I'll teach him to read early.

jerryhao

haha 在美国还真的有Doman的正常孩子，而且40年前就有了，看来那时候理论尚不成熟吧

linkspeed

Now the caveat: Please do not take the above as an endorcement of the
Doman program. Both on a professional level, as a child development
specialist/early childhood education, and on a personal level,
as an IAHP graduate, I feel the program has a large potential for harm,
weighted by a small potential for improvement in a normal child.
Although it cannot be argued that the brain-injured children that were
selected for, and completed (two big areas of weeding) the Doman program
showed major short-term gains, ancedotal evidence (since no statistical
evidence seems to exist) seems to indicate that these gains were not
carried over the long term. I have yet to meet a Doman child who was not
later placed in special education, even if their release status from the
Doman program would indicate this to be unnecessary, and, since the Doman
program passed no records on to schools and had records purged and/or sealed
of previous results, these placements were done by independent evidence.
There is also a high rate of learning disabilities among these children,
which may be linked to the patterning program. Given these problems,
applying the system to normal children, on the hopes that it will cause
similar gains in intelligence seems a less than wise option, and one
that is not grounded in any firm evidence of improvement. Although the
programs described in the books are much less intense than those done
through the IAHP, the possible link to later learning problems would
tend to invalidate such programs as well. Please be cautious about
selecting such a program for your child.

天问

linkspeed 翻译一下如何？谢。在哪里找到的？