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【英语拼音】SWR vs. 100EZ Lessons

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-7-19 21:34:05 | 只看该作者

回复 #8 Ester 的帖子

of , 在SWR列为例外,在回复时我说,说不定它曾经就是/f/呢。

看到还真有,不是曾经,而是现在。挺有意思的。

Greetings,

We're about to go into Section C in the WISE Guide, and I was reading about the
exception word "of". We think to spell /o-f/ but according to SWR, we SAY /o-v/.
Now, the thing is that we actually SAY "of" the way it is spelled /o-f/. We're
Malaysian Chinese and English is our first language at home. Our English is
pretty much spoken following British accents and even our spelling/writing is
according to British spelling (eg. colour, not color).

Do I still need to teach the word "of" as an EXCEPTION WORD even though we say
it the way it is spelled? It would seem rather odd to teach it as an exception
when we don't even say it as /o-v/. Please advice.

Thank you!

Yours,

[ 本帖最后由 瑜珈 于 2012-7-19 21:40 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-7-19 21:34:57 | 只看该作者
My understanding is that, in your situation, it would not be an exception.

It is an exception for us, but I taught my daughter that it is spelled with
an "f" because English words do not end in "v". She will learn the f-v
connection later on.

Cynthia in AK
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-7-19 21:35:38 | 只看该作者
Dear Dominique,

You are Malaysian Chinese and you say "of" the way it is spelled.
Should you teach it as an exception word? Your question intrigued
me. I knew that at one time the word was probably spoken as spelled
but I was not aware that the British do this today. I just looked
the word up in the Oxford Dictionary and the pronunciation for F is /
v/. I know that the difference between /v/ and /f/ is difficult
for speakers in the Pacific Rim. Check to see if you can make a
clear distinction. Hold your throat and say /f/. Then say /v/.
The difference can be felt with your Adam's apple. There will be no
vibration with /f/ but you should have vibration with /v/. I call
this, "motor off/ motor on."

You may want to point out that the English speakers in your area say
this word the way it is spelled, but that native American and British
speakers no longer do. Have fun experimenting saying the word the
"funny way."

Blessings,

Wanda Sanseri
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-7-19 21:36:20 | 只看该作者
Dear Wanda,

Thank you for your reply! You're right that English is spoken very
differently in the Pacific Rim ... at least in Malaysia anyway. I've
consulted my husband and other local people who speak English fluently
(that is, English is their first language, and not their native mother
tongues eg. chinese dialects), and it's funny that ALL of us pronounce
"of" as /o-f/ and not /o-v/. We were discussing about it and we
realized that our school teachers never once emphasized pronunciation
- well, not the correct ones anyway. It's natural for us to just speak
like this now and not follow CORRECT/PROPER pronunciation. There're
many other phonograms that we don't pronounce correctly too, for
example, /th/ -- we just say it as /d/ -- Crazy huh? Honestly, now
that we're homeschooling, I am discovering, day by day, how the
education system that I grew up with, had actually "screwed up" my own
education/learning. Now I understand what it means by "unschooling".
Anyway, in the case of SWR, I'm trying my best to stick by the correct
pronunciations and rules. My soon-to-be 6yo boy is learning way faster
than I am, hahah! We're enjoying and LOVING SWR - it's truly amazing!

Thanks for your help!
God bless!


peace be with you,
dominique car nee chow
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35#
发表于 2012-8-29 20:58:44 | 只看该作者
学习了,谢谢楼主无私分享。
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36#
发表于 2012-9-6 23:48:06 | 只看该作者
学习了,谢谢精彩的讨论。
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37#
发表于 2013-4-25 10:10:06 | 只看该作者

非常精彩

非常精彩的讨论,学习到了很多
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