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【英语拼音】SWR vs. 100EZ Lessons

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发表于 2012-6-14 23:26:28 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

下面这个帖子是SWR  YAHOO GROUP里一位美国家长写的,刚好写到有我前几天一直想写的一个帖子, sight words真的需要整体认读吗?


一般的phonics教材包括100 easy lessons都将sight words排斥在拼读之外,认为是需要整体认读的,当有人问我用SWR的话,sight words不需要整体认读吗?我当时就觉得这个问题很奇怪,怎么需要整体认读呢?sight words list被挑选出来是因为使用频率,高频词,而不是因为所谓读音不符合规则,说sight words需要整体认读,不是sight words 本身的错,而是教学的方法问题,有人甚至把is, am, on, he, she这样的都认为是不规则的,不能拼读的,把高频词等同于发音不规则词,我晕。。。
即使学过phonics kids 这样的教材,sight word list 里也是有相当多是可以拼读的,当孩子碰到读错的看似不符合规则的,跟孩子说那是需要整体认读的单词,孩子能不晕吗?难道还需要先将单词分下组,哪些个要整体认,哪些个可以拼?



SWR:   SPELL TO WRITE AND READ

100EZ:   Teach your child in 100 easy lessons



SWR vs. 100EZ Lessons


Before discovering SWR, I used 100 easy lessons for my first 4 children. I did have to supplement quite a bit. And I mean a lot! I do not have 'automatic'
readers. They never did get to the 100th lesson though, by about 80something, they could read what was in that book and wanted to switch to normal books. My friends tell me the same thing. However, in order to advance further they needed better phonics.  

I have not used 100 EZ lessons with the rest of my children. I feel, 'what is the point?'  100 EZ was a 'get them reading first' type book and I am now using a 'get them to spell first' approach. Why would I try to combine two different directions, like going South and North at the same time? I am sure that the
phonems are not introduced in the same order or speed, the markings are different, they probably have 'sight' words that wouldn't be the case in SWR
and I'd be forever having to adjust my 'script.'

Reading starts right away with SWR too. Children using SWR are to practice reading using their spelling words. I think this is sometimes neglected. [I
know I do] They do not need to read every single list, every day, but they should read some of their words every day- either using the log, or pick out
words from their index cards. [words on index cards can have trouble spots highlighted- my kids like to do full markings] Mom could make it fun by putting the words in a funny sentence [ make extra 'the, a, an' cards] or mom and student could draw pictures of their words after the reading session. [we like
to draw on our large dry erase board] Swr/Cursvie First provides the writing instruction too. Once a student has reached list I-1 you can start assigning
reading in regular books. Play by the Sea, New England Primer and any 'easy readers' from the store or library will work. [We already had Bob books in our house and lots of Dr. Seuss] You can get a piece of paper and cover the picture, if there is one, and ask the same sorts of questions that 100 EZ asks and then show them the picture. [That was my kids favorite part, so maybe that's the draw of 100 EZ] If getting them to read as soon as possible is your goal, then getting them to i-1 asap should be your goal.

My opinion is, if you have a student that will learn with 100 EZ, then that type of student should fly through SWR instead [per recommended schedules in SWR]  They will be reading 'easy' readers just as fast with SWR as they would with 100 EZ. In fact, they will probably reach a higher reading level sooner. Plus they will be able to spell. A student that will struggle with 100 EZ will not learn to read any faster, but will simply be frustrated with torture reading. Ask me how I know. I have years of torture reading to regret! They would do better sticking with SWR at their own pace without the pressure to 'hurry and read.'
A student with visual/learning issues needs their specific needs addressed before any reading takes place. I think this is part of the brilliance of SWR,
any student, at any level, will have their needs met without damage by pushing something too soon or dragging something too slow. 100 Ez just can't adjust for these variations.

There is already a pretty big learning curve for most of us with SWR, I would not recommend trying to learn SWR while also using 100 EZ. It takes time and
practice to really see the big picture of SWR and to trust it's logic. I know it is hard to resist combining. As homeschoolers we tend to get in the trap of too much 'great curriculum' and not enough selectivity. I know that I try to combine too many history programs, too many math books, and too many
science curriculums because I "love them all" and they are 'all so good.'  Trying to use too many different curriculums is more work for mom and confusing
for children. We must endeavor to pick the best of the best and at the same  time simplify with the bare necessities.


[ 本帖最后由 瑜珈 于 2012-6-14 23:57 编辑 ]
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发表于 2012-6-15 09:58:11 | 只看该作者
很久没有看到您的帖子了,您的方法和思想给我很大的启发,拜读
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发表于 2012-6-15 14:35:28 | 只看该作者
100EZ Lesson 是一个不错的Phonics教材,不过更适合很小的,还不会自主阅读的孩子。另外,100EZ设计上就只是教拼读的初级Phonics教程,并没有要cover 拼写。

其实100EZ的作者另有个很好的拼写教程,跟SWR的方法完全不同。

SWR 虽然非常好,但不适合多数人,我觉得对英文不好的中国家长尤其不适合。SWR 是唯一一个让俺没有弄明白就放弃了的教材(所以我比较佩服用SWR的人,呵呵)。我到现在都觉得SWR是个overkill, 当然对俺娃来说。

我推荐的方法就是一个简单易行的Phonics教材,外加一套系统Phonics练习题。同样能到到拼读拼写并举的目的。

探讨。。。

[ 本帖最后由 Ester 于 2012-6-15 14:40 编辑 ]
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发表于 2012-6-15 14:53:29 | 只看该作者
我同意您说的绝大多数Sight Word 需要整体认读不是因为它们不符合拼音规则(这是很多中国家长被误导的误区)。

SWR 是怎么处理 of 这个词的?

[ 本帖最后由 Ester 于 2012-6-15 14:54 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-15 20:55:16 | 只看该作者

回复 #3 Ester 的帖子

不知道您是 买了SWR core kit 全套材料还是只买了SPELL TO WRITE AND READ 这一本书?如果只是这一本教师用书,那是没法用的。

其实,SWR并没有想象中的那么难,在我学习的同期,这个论坛里有好几位家长都在用,都取得了非常好的效果。

我只将主线拎了一下,写了几篇帖子给买了书的家长看,再将几个示范视频给他们看了下,文心妈已经在实践,做得非常不错,还有的家长虽然没有记录,但是从交流中我知道他们也在学,在做,还有一个家长做了一套非常不错的音图卡(让我看过),都在为暑假开始教孩子做着准备。

SWR之所以看起来那么繁琐,是因为作者将背景、理念、教学详细步骤。。。都说得太仔细太透彻了,让人似乎找不到教学主线。

我认为上过大学有大学英语四级底子的家长,都可以胜任。

国内现在有专门的机构在推广,亚洲区总负责人黄陈怡文老师,她在给家长、老师们做培训。也有美国人在中国的学校里使用SWR。

无意中在新浪博客发现一位接受了培训的家长在家教孩子SWR的:狗狗妈的BLOG
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-15 20:59:11 | 只看该作者
不认同100EZ Lesson 是好教材,里面有不少的误导,相比较好言,还是  phonics pathways更好些,国内的星之升也好过它。

[ 本帖最后由 瑜珈 于 2012-6-15 21:13 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-15 21:06:46 | 只看该作者

回复 #4 Ester 的帖子

您有书,在SWR 的80页,对of的处理,写得很清楚。还说了f 和 v 的关系。

在 SWR 听写的2000个单词里,只有27个单词是作为例外。
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发表于 2012-6-15 21:20:37 | 只看该作者
原帖由 瑜珈 于 2012-6-15 21:06 发表
您有书,在SWR 的80页,对of的处理,写得很清楚。还说了f 和 v 的关系。
在 SWR 听写的2000个单词里,只有27个单词是作为例外。


我有全套东东。

Page 80:

Think to spell:      We think to spell /o-f/; we say /o-v/
Syllables:              Swing right to hand down as you say "of."
Student says:        One syllable and write: /o-f/
Student reads:      /o-v/
Teacher:               Put a X over F as an exception

..............

Man! This confuses the hell out of me, and I have a PhD!

原来想Wise可以用,可它的lists又不是按syllable spelling rules 分类的。反正,SWR 除了让俺觉得自己笨,其他一点用没有,哈哈。

还是觉得从 Explode the Code 开始好。

[ 本帖最后由 Ester 于 2012-6-15 21:30 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-15 21:35:41 | 只看该作者

回复 #8 Ester 的帖子

你看到接下去的三行了吗?

这个词本身就是作为例外词处理的。

即使是作为不规则的,它还是有内在的原因。

有的是因为单词的历史发展,有的是因为字母间的联系。

如果没有对SWR理念和方法的了解,仅仅挑出这样一个例外词的处理方法来看,不感到confused,那倒真奇怪了。

[ 本帖最后由 瑜珈 于 2012-6-15 21:59 编辑 ]
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发表于 2012-6-15 21:53:48 | 只看该作者
原帖由 瑜珈 于 2012-6-15 20:55 发表
不知道您是 买了SWR core kit 全套材料还是只买了SPELL TO WRITE AND READ 这一本书?如果只是这一本教师用书,那是没法用的。

其实,SWR并没有想象中的那么难,在我学习的同期,这个论坛里有好几位家长都在 ...


有个SWR的前Trainer,写了一本新的教材: The Logic of English。简化了Wanda Sanseri 的这个系统,而且是scripted, 不过它的spelling words 比SWR少。
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