宝宝成长记

月下小楼 · 发表于 2006-1-27 09:25:50

iwp2004+2006-01-27 08:48-->引用:iwp2004 @ 2006-01-27 08:48 小楼的钻研精神值得学习！smilefo主要可能是语法方面提出疑问，我也感觉似乎一个句子中两个动词都用一般时态有些不妥，如果加上一些副词句型可能就更稳妥了。我这瞎琢磨呢：）

能否举例说明？有时通过例子更能清楚的说明问题啊！我有时会从语言学的角度来划一些segment，可是这样的方法越分析可能越乱，而且好多东西是没有定论的。我又想到and有时也可表示一种因果关系，所以smilefo的说法也很有道理。我们自己费点时间精力把问题搞清楚，宝宝们才更能受益呀。

iwp2004 · 发表于 2006-1-27 10:20:02

月下小楼+2006-01-27 09:25-->引用:月下小楼 @ 2006-01-27 09:25 能否举例说明？有时通过例子更能清楚的说明问题啊！我有时会从语言学的角度来划一些segment，可是这样的方法越分析可能越乱，而且好多东西是没有定论的。我又想到and有时也可表示一种因果关系，所以smilefo的说法也很有道理。我们自己费点时间精力把问题搞清楚，宝宝们才更能受益呀。

嘿嘿，没工具我可不会举例：（。就说说你举的例子吧：你举的例子都是简单句，你若能找到类似“There are boats flloat in water” 的句子，才能说明问题。

月下小楼 · 发表于 2006-1-27 10:52:54

iwp2004+2006-01-27 10:20-->引用:iwp2004 @ 2006-01-27 10:20 嘿嘿，没工具我可不会举例：（。就说说你举的例子吧：你举的例子都是简单句，你若能找到类似“There are boats flloat in water” 的句子，才能说明问题。

We waited for the tide to float the boat off the sandbank.这个复杂点。

月下小楼 · 发表于 2006-1-27 11:01:16

月下小楼+2006-01-27 10:52-->引用:月下小楼 @ 2006-01-27 10:52 We waited for the tide to float the boat off the sandbank.这个复杂点。

我又查了and的用法：表示：then; following this 例：She came in and sat down. I pulled the trigger and the gun went off.表示：as a result of this 例：Arrive late once more and you're fired.注意and前后的时态。

缘源圆 · 发表于 2006-1-27 23:06:36

月下小楼+2006-01-26 09:53-->引用:月下小楼 @ 2006-01-26 09:53 [quote]smilefo+2006-01-26 09:27-->引用:smilefo @ 2006-01-26 09:27 ....大概是Mommy asks grandma to help you put on the pants, ok?Mommy has to work and earn money to buy books and formula.

你真细心，前一句的PUTTING的确是我打错了。应为PUT后一句你把句子拆开来，只看Mommy earns money to buy...看有没有问题？我所了解的语法知识and前后应是对应的，比如前面用第三人称单数has，and后也应是第三人称单数，所以我用earnS，因为主语是MOMMY。不知我理解得对不对？谢谢你把问题提出来。[/quote]smilefo 的句子是对的。因为 work 和 earn 是跟在 to 之后的。至于什么原理，我还真想不起了，想起了再说吧<img src='images/smiles/tongue.gif' smilietext=':p' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt=':p' title=':p' /> 。下面是我在 answers.com 找到的一些资料，做个参考吧。<img src='images/smiles/biggrin.gif' smilietext='

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' /> <hr />http://www.answers.com/topic/to?method=5&linktext=toto (<span class="pointer" onclick="status='Click for pronunciation key';return true;" style="COLOR: blue" onload="pw = window.open('http://content.answers.com/main/content/pronkey-answers.html', 'PronunciationKey', 'height=585,width=520,resizable,scrollbars');if(pw){pw.focus();}" onmouseout="status='';return true;">tū; t when unstressed) <span onclick="status='Click to hear pronunciation';return true;" style="CURSOR: pointer" onload="playIt('http://content.answers.com/main/content/ahd4/pron/T0242200.wav')" onmouseout="status='';return true;"><img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/pron.gif" border="0" onclick="javascript:window.open(this.src);" alt= style="CURSOR: pointer" onload="javascript:if(this.width>screen.width-500)this.style.width=screen.width-500;" />prep. <ol><li><ol type="a"><li>In a direction toward so as to reach: went to the city. </li><li>Towards: turned to me.</li></ol></li><li><ol type="a"><li>Reaching as far as: The ocean water was clear all the way to the bottom. </li><li>To the extent or degree of: loved him to distraction. </li><li>With the resultant condition of: nursed her back to health.</li></ol></li><li>Toward a given state: helping minority women to economic equality. </li><li>In contact with; against: their faces pressed to the windows. </li><li>In front of: stood face to face. </li><li>Used to indicate appropriation or possession: looked for the top to the jar. </li><li>Concerning; regarding: waiting for an answer to my letter. </li><li>In a particular relationship with: The brook runs parallel to the road. </li><li>As an accompaniment or a complement of: danced to the tune. </li><li>Composing; constituting: two cups to a pint. </li><li>In accord with: job responsibilities suited to her abilities. </li><li>As compared with: a book superior to his others. </li><li><ol type="a"><li>Before: The time is ten to five. </li><li>Up till; until: worked from nine to five.</li></ol></li><li><ol type="a"><li>For the purpose of: went out to lunch. </li><li>In honor of: a toast to the queen.</li></ol></li><li><ol type="a"><li>Used before a verb to indicate the infinitive: I'd like to go. </li><li>Used alone when the infinitive is understood: Go if you want to.</li></ol></li><li><ol type="a"><li>Used to indicate the relationship of a verb with its complement: refer to a dictionary; refer me to a dictionary. </li><li>Used with a reflexive pronoun to indicate exclusivity or separateness: had the plane to ourselves.</li></ol></li></ol>adv. <ol><li>In one direction; toward a person or thing: owls with feathers wrong end to. </li><li>Into a shut or closed position: pushed the door to. </li><li>Into a state of consciousness: The patient came to. </li><li>Into a state of action or attentiveness: sat down for lunch and fell to. </li><li>Nautical. Into the wind.</li></ol>[Middle English, from Old English tō.] Translations for: To <div class="content">中国话 (Simplified Chinese) prep. - 向, 到, 往, 直到, 在...之前, 离adv. - 向前, 恢复意识, 关上, 起来, 着手中國話 (Traditional Chinese) prep. - 向, 到, 往, 直到, 在...之前, 離adv. - 向前, 恢復意識, 關上, 起來, 著手</div>

缘源圆 · 发表于 2006-1-27 23:15:07

有关 and 的：http://www.answers.com/topic/and?gwp=19and (<span class="pointer" onclick="status='Click for pronunciation key';return true;" style="COLOR: blue" onload="pw = window.open('http://content.answers.com/main/content/pronkey-answers.html', 'PronunciationKey', 'height=585,width=520,resizable,scrollbars');if(pw){pw.focus();}" onmouseout="status='';return true;">nd, n; nd when stressed) <span onclick="status='Click to hear pronunciation';return true;" style="CURSOR: pointer" onload="playIt('http://content.answers.com/main/content/ahd4/pron/A0287300.wav')" onmouseout="status='';return true;"><img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/pron.gif" border="0" onclick="javascript:window.open(this.src);" alt= style="CURSOR: pointer" onload="javascript:if(this.width>screen.width-500)this.style.width=screen.width-500;" />conj. <ol><li>Together with or along with; in addition to; as well as. Used to connect words, phrases, or clauses that have the same grammatical function in a construction. </li><li>Added to; plus: Two and two makes four. </li><li>Used to indicate result: Give the boy a chance, and he might surprise you. </li><li>Informal. To. Used between finite verbs, such as go, come, try, write, or see: try and find it; come and see. See Usage Note at <a class="ilnk" onload="addLinkTextToHref(this);" href="http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=1555&dekey=T0393900&gwp=19&curtab=1555_1" target="_top">try[/url]. </li><li>Archaic. If: and it pleases you.</li></ol>idioms: and so forth (or on) <ol><li>And other unspecified things of the same class: bought groceries, went to the bank, picked up the dry cleaning, and so forth. </li><li>Further in the same manner.</li></ol>and then some Informal. <ol><li style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE: none">With considerably more in addition: This project will take all our skill and then some.</li></ol>[Middle English, from Old English.]USAGE NOTE It is frequently asserted that sentences beginning with and or but express “incomplete thoughts” and are therefore incorrect. But this rule has been ridiculed by grammarians for decades, and the stricture has been ignored by writers from Shakespeare to Joyce Carol Oates. When asked whether they paid attention to the rule in their own writing, 24 percent of the Usage Panel answered “always or usually,” 36 percent answered “sometimes,” and 40 percent answered “rarely or never.” See Usage Notes at both, but, with.<a class="dataSourceTitle" style="DISPLAY: block; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 15px" href="http://www.answers.com/library/Antonyms-cid-2077005874">Antonyms [/url]<div class="content">and conj Definition : plus Antonyms : not</div><div class="content">and conj Definition : plus Antonyms : not</div>Translations for: And conj. - 和, 与, 及, 然后, 又, 而且n. - 附加条件, 额外的细节, 及的逻辑乘abbr. - "与", 逻辑乘字母, 数字显示, 自动数值判定n. - "与", 逻辑乘字母数字显示自动数值判定中國話 (Traditional Chinese) abbr. - "與", 邏輯乘字母, 數位顯示, 自動數值判定n. - "與", 邏輯乘字母數位顯示自動數值判定conj. - 和, 與, 及, 然後, 又, 而且n. - 附加條件, 額外的細節, 及的邏輯乘conj. - 和, 与, 及, 然后, 又, 而且n. - 附加条件, 额外的细节, 及的逻辑乘abbr. - "与", 逻辑乘字母, 数字显示, 自动数值判定n. - "与", 逻辑乘字母数字显示自动数值判定中國話 (Traditional Chinese) abbr. - "與", 邏輯乘字母, 數位顯示, 自動數值判定n. - "與", 邏輯乘字母數位顯示自動數值判定conj. - 和, 與, 及, 然後, 又, 而且n. - 附加條件, 額外的細節, 及的邏輯乘

tiantian03 · 发表于 2006-1-27 23:27:22

真是有这么巧的事情，我昨天刚刚把wood floats。Try and float on your back.记下来，今天居然发现小楼帖出来了。可见用的是同样的字典。那两个句子，我觉得第一个都可以，看口气和停顿。不知道对不对。Mom has to work and earn money.(不得不上班和挣钱) earns （不得不上班然后挣钱给你）第二个应该有ing的，就是我们平时说的 There are some students sitting under the shade.那格式。

smilefo · 发表于 2006-1-28 10:56:43

同意田老师的说法，第一次看到Mommy has to work and earns money的时候有点粗心，只注意到has to，实际上and可以连接两个相同时态的动词或词组，至于float应该可以用于各种时态，主要取决于什么语言环境。

月下小楼 · 发表于 2006-2-5 09:16:21

谢谢大家的讨论，八天没上网了。今天回来又学习了很多！为了弄明白一些问题，我特地找了一本英语用法想趁假期看看，无奈书太厚，假期的事也太多，只能零打零敲地看一点。不过我会坚持看下去，有了新收获再贴上来。希望我们能保持这种讨论！也在此给大家拜个晚年，祝各位新年身体健康，心想事成，各位小宝宝健康成长！

sunxian128 · 发表于 2006-2-5 09:39:35

又看见小楼了,真好!祝小楼新年快乐,代问宝宝好!祝宝宝天天笑,越长越帅,越来越聪明!

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