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[原创] 我们要不要对孩子进行品德教育?

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发表于 2013-2-17 09:54:50 | 只看该作者
楼主的话题很大,很难一下子讲清楚,正好可以慢慢的说

先说说楼主的故事,可以看出楼主是一位热心而且敢为的人,这一点在中国很难的,而且也为楼主的孩子没有被报复感到很万幸,不过还是尽量保护好自己,保护好自己的孩子吧。

楼主所做的事情,如果放在西方,那确实是很常见的,一般的学校都有家长委员会,这个委员会有很大的权力,所以解决楼主遇到的问题确实很容易,也不需要向楼主一样四处开战。

放在中国那就很难的了,因为这个社会很少有为公众权益而战的人。

而且比较高兴的是楼主很有分寸,对于孩子教师位置不好这个事情,拒绝了其他同班家长不合理的要求,这是难能可贵的。不过从退出班级群这件事情来看,楼主还是曲高和寡的。

说说正题吧,楼主谈到道德这个大的层面,真的很难说。

关于楼主的问题,怎么培养孩子的道德,那就更难了,你说的是希望用中国古代的方法去做,还是用以往的所谓共产主义道德的方法去培养呢?

讲道德的难和操作的难,在于这个道德目前未获得一个准确的定义,你可以把儒家的长尊有序称为道德,也可以把佛家的献身称为道德,还可以把前些年宣传的所谓服从称为道德。没有统一的标准,没有普世的价值观,道德有就和没有一样了。

人们说道德缺失,也是因为我认为是道德的你不认为是,你觉得道德的我认为不是道德,所以就似乎没有道德观了。

实际上中国从古至今,依然还是有一些定规的,私德一直在受到褒扬,但公德一直缺失。

到了现代社会了,受到西方文化的影响,也开始注重公德,而且也越来越受到国人的重视,遗憾的是这个国家的文化,对公德确实非常的排斥的。

在这个环境下,过多的却期望像儒家的论语、佛家的经卷、前些年的洗脑去建立所谓的道德标准是不现实的。

包括这个坛子里的众多父母,也都习惯于用所谓的大道理试图去教化孩子,希望自己的孩子在成长过程中能让自己比较的省心,最后也会发现是徒劳的。

比较现实的做法,应该是像西方人一样,把最具体的是非规则告诉孩子们,就可以保证孩子今后能够真正的融入这个现代社会。

发一个网络上流传很广的美国小学生推荐的规则,供楼主参考。那些具体化的东西,孩子是很容易做到的。

美国小学生行为规范55条


1.与大人应对,要有礼貌,有分寸。


2.与人互动,眼睛要看着对方的眼睛。


3.别人有好表现,要替他高兴。


4.尊重别人的发言与想法。


5.自己有什么好表现,不要炫耀,输给别人也不要生气。


6.如果别人问你问题,你也要回问他问题。



7.打喷嚏、咳嗽都要说对不起。


8.不可以有不礼貌的小动作。


9.别人送你任何东西,都要说谢谢。


10.接到奖品和礼物,不可以嫌弃。


11.用小小的贴心,为别人制造惊喜。


12.改同学考卷时要谨慎。


13.全班一起念课文时,要看着正在念的一字一句。


14.以完整的句子回答所有的问题。


15.不要主动讨奖品。


16.每天都要做完作业。


17.换科目的时候,动作要快,要安静,要守秩序。


18.做什么事都要有条理。


19.老师在指定作业的时候,不要叫苦。


20.别的老师来代课,也要守班规。


21.课堂上发言或起身,应该讲规矩。


22.不可以上课上一半,起身去倒水。


23.见到每个老师,都要说某某老师好。


24.注意洗手间的卫生,把身边的病源减到最少。


25.让客人有宾至如归的感觉。


26.不要帮同学占位子。


27.同学受罚的时候,不要看着他。


28.对作业有问题,可以打电话来我家,我没接的话,你可以留言,但只要留一次就够了。


29.遵守用餐的基本礼仪。


30.吃完饭,自己的垃圾自己处理。


31.接受别人的服务要惜福、感恩。


32.坐校车或公车,都要坐好,别打扰到司机,并记得说谢谢。


33.认识新朋友,要记住对方的名字,道别时记得称呼对方。


34.吃自助餐或有人请客时,取菜不可以贪多。


35.别人掉东西,请弯身去帮他捡。


36.进门时,如果后面还有人,请帮他扶住门。


37.别人碰撞到你,不管你有没有错,都要说对不起。


38.进行校外教学时,无论是到哪一个公共场所,都要安安静静。


39.去参观别人的地方,要不吝于赞美。


40.全校师生开会的时候,不要讲话,要自爱自重。


41.接电话时的应答要得体。


42.一趟校外教学结束,要感恩及谢谢所有随行的老师和家长。


43.搭乘电扶梯时,要站右边,让赶时间的人可由左边先行。


44.列队行进时不要说话。


45.不可以插队;但看到别人插队不要大呼小叫,让老师知道就好。


46.看电影时不可以说话或干扰到别人。


47.不可以带「多力多滋」来学校(制定属于自己的班规)。


48.有谁找你麻烦,让老师知道,不要私自处理。


49.捍卫自己的理想,不因别人否定而退缩。


50.要乐观、积极地去享受人生。


51.别让将来有遗憾,想做什么就竭尽所能去实现。


52.从错误中学习,并继续向前迈进。


53.不管什么情况,一定要诚实,做错事就坦白承认。


54.把握今天,不要浪费它。


55.在你的能力范围内,做最棒、最棒的人。


再贴一个英文版的,看起来更准确

“The Essential 55”

by Ron Clark

Rule 1

When responding to any adult, you must answer by saying

“Yes ma’am” or “No sir.” Just nodding your head or saying

any other form of yes or no is not acceptable.

Rule 2

Make eye contact. When someone is speaking, keep your

eyes on him or her at all times. If someone makes a

comment, turn and face that person.

Rule 3

If someone in the class wins a game or does something well,

we will congratulate that person. Claps should be at least

three seconds in length with the full part of both hands

meeting in a manner that will give the appropriate clap

volume.

Rule 4

During discussions, respect other students’ comments,

opinions, and ideas. When possible, make statements like, “I

agree with John, and I also feel that…” or “I disagree with

Sarah. She made a good point I feel that…” or “I think Victor

made an excellent observation, and it made me realize…”

Rule 5

If you win or do well at something, do not brag. If you lose, do

not show anger. Instead, say something like, “I really enjoyed

the competition, and I look forward to playing you again,” or

“good game,” or don’t say anything at all. To show anger or

sarcasm, such as “I wasn’t playing hard anyway” or “You

really aren’t that good,” shows weakness.

Rule 6

If you are asked a question in conversation, you should ask a

question in return.

Me: “Did you have a nice weekend?”

You: “Yes, I had a great time. My family and I went shopping.

What about you? Did you have a nice weekend?”

It is only polite to show others that you are just as interested in

them as they are in you.

Rule 7

“When you cough or sneeze or burp, it is appropriate to turn

your head away from others and cover your mouth with the

full part of your hand. Using a fist is not acceptable.

Afterward, you should say, “Excuse me.”

Rule 8

“Do not smack your lips, tsk, roll your eyes, or show

disrespect with gestures.”

Rule 9

“Always say thank you when I give you something. If you do

not say it within 3 seconds after receiving the item, I will take it

back. There is no excuse for not showing appreciation.”

Rule 10

“When you are given something from someone, never insult

that person by making negative comments about the gift or by

insinuating that it wasn’t appreciated”

Rule 11

“Surprise others by performing random acts of kindness. Go

our of your way to do something surprisingly kind and

generous for someone at least once a month.”

Rule 12

“Occasionally we may grade each other’s papers as a group.

When grading other students’ papers, if you give someone an

incorrect grade, whether it is higher or lower than they

deserve, the amount the grade differs from the actual grade

will be deducted from your paper. The only marks you are

allowed to make on others’ papers are an “X” and the number

they got incorrect.”

Rule 13

“When we read together in class, you must follow along. If I

call on you to read, you must know exactly where we are and

begin to read immediately”

Rule 14

“Answer all questions with a complete sentence. For

example, if the question asks, “What is the capital of Russia?”

you should respond by writing, “The capital of Russia is

Moscow.” Also, in conversation with others, it is important to

use complete sentences out of respect for the person’s

question. For example, if a person asks, “How are you?”

instead of just responding by saying, “Fine,” you should say,

“I’m doing fine, thank you. How about yourself?”

Rule 15

“At times throughout the year, I will give rewards for good

behavior, academic performances and other acts worthy of

praise. If you ever ask me for a reward, however, it will not be

given. It is rude to ask if you are getting something for good

behavior. You should be good and try your best because you

are trying to better yourself, not because you are anticipating

a reward. I usually give some sort of reward to everyone who

scores 100 on unit tests. If you make 100 and ask if you are

getting something, no one who made 100 will be given

anything.”

Rule 16

“Homework will be turned in each day for each subject by

every student with no exceptions.”

Rule 17

“When we are in transition from one subject to the other, the

change will be swift, quiet and orderly. We should be

consistently able to turn from one book to another, complete

with all homework and necessary materials, as quickly as

possible. The opportune amount of time to spend in transition

should be less than ten seconds, and we will work toward a

goal of seven seconds.”

Rule 18

“You will make every effort to be as organized as possible.”

Rule 19

“When I assign homework, there is to be no moaning or

complaining. This will result in a doubled assignment.”

Rule 20

“While you are with a substitute teacher, you will obey the

same rules that you follow when I am with you. (I know this is

hard, but it is important.)”

Rule 21

“We will follow certain classroom protocols. We will be

organized, efficient, and on task. In order to do so, we will

follow these rules:

1. Do not get out of your seat without permission. Exception:

If you are sick, leave immediately.

2. Do not speak unless:

You raise your hand, and I call on you.

I ask you a question and you are responding.

It is a recess of lunch.

I instruct you otherwise (for example, during group work).”

Rule 22

“You may bring a bottle of water and leave it on your desk. Do

not ask me f you can get water while I am teaching a lesson.

You can even have food at your desk as long as others don’t

see it and I don’t hear you eat it.”

Rule 23

"Quickly learn the name of other teachers in the

school and greet them by saying things like, "Good

morning Mrs. Graham," or "Good afternoon Ms. Ortiz.

That is a very pretty dress." (Note: If you are in

line with the rest of class, you are not allowed to

speak to the teachers at that time because the

no-talking rule is in effect. You should speak to

other teachers if you are entering or leaving the

school, on recess, on an errand, or changing classes.)

Rule 24

"Flush the toilet and wash your hands after using the rest

room. When in a public rest room, get a paper towel before

washing your hands. After washing your hands, use the paper

towel to turn off the faucets and to press the dispenser to get

another paper towel to dry your hands. (Or use the towel to

press the button to start the dryer.) The last thing you want to

do is touch areas with clean hands that others have touched

with dirty hands."

Rule 25

"We will often have visitors to our school. If someone is

coming to visit our class, I will send two students to the front

door of the building. You will have a sign welcoming the

person. When our visitor arrives, you will shake hands, tell

him or her who you are, and welcome the person to our

school. You will then take the visitor on a small tour of the

building before bringing him or her to the classroom."

Rule 26

“Do not save seats in the lunchroom. If someone wants to sit

down, let him or her. Do not try to exclude anyone. We are a

family, and we must treat one another with respect and

kindness.”

Rule 27

“If I or any other teacher in school is speaking to or

disciplining a student, do not look at that student. You

wouldn’t want others looking at you if you were in trouble or

being reprimanded, so don’t look at others in that situation. If

you are the student I am talking to, do not get angry or fuss at

students who are looking at you. Let me know and I will

handle the situation.”

Rule 28

"If you have a question about your homework, you may call

me. If I am not there to answer the phone, please leave a

message in the following manner: "Hi, Mr. Clark, this is

_______________. I need help with the _______________

homework. You can call me back until ___:00. Thank you."

There is no need to leave this message fourteen times."

餐桌礼仪 R29

Rule 29

“There are several manners dealing with food that you must

follow: I call these my ABC’s of Etiquette.

A. When you first sit down for a meal, immediately place you

napkin in your lap. If you silverware is wrapped in a napkin,

unwrap it as soon as you sit down and place the napkin in

your lap.

B. When you are finished eating, place you napkin on the table

to the left of your plate. Place it loosely beside the plate. Don’t

crumple it, because you don’t want to seem untidy. Don’t fold

it too neatly, because you don’t want the restaurant to think

you assume they are going to use it again. Never leave your

napkin on your chair. This implies that the napkin is too dirty

to be left on the table. Also, in some cultures, leaving the

napkin on the chair is known as a way to say that you don’t

intend to return to the restaurant again.

C. Never place you elbows on the table.

D. Use one hand to eat, unless you are cutting or buttering food.

Never have your fork in one hand and a glass in the other.

E. Do not lick your fingers. There is a napkin provided for the

purpose of cleaning your fingers. There is no need to lick

yourself clean.

F. Do not smack you lips or chew noisily.

G. Do not chew with your mouth open.

H. Do not talk with your mouth full. Sometimes people will place

a hand over their mouth and talk anyway. Don’t do that. Wait

until you have swallowed your food to speak.

I. If something is caught in your teeth, don’t go in after it; wait

until you are in the rest room to remove it.

J. D not slurp.

K. Do not play with your food.

L. If you drop your fork, napkin, or anything else on the floor, DO

NOT pick it up. It is very rude and unsanitary to place

something on the table that has been on the floor. If you pick

up something that has dropped and hand it to a waiter, then

you will need to excuse yourself and wash your hands before

continuing with your meal. The best way to handle a situation

when something has dropped on the floor is to ask a waiter for

a replacement; leave the old one on the floor.

M. You are to use your utensils for eating almost everything.

Here are ten types of food you may use your hands to eat:

1. Pizza

2. Bacon

3. Cookies

4. Bread (Always tear off a bite-sized piece to eat. If you

are going to use butter, never butter the whole piece of bread;

butter the piece you tore off, and eat that before tearing

another piece.)

5. Corn on the cob (It is appropriate to eat across instead

of eating around.)

6. Hot dogs, hamburgers, and sandwiches (including

breakfast biscuits)

7. French fries and chips

8. Fried chicken

9. Asparagus (yes, asparagus)

10. Small fruits (like grapes on a stem), apples, oranges,

carrots, etc.

N. Never reach over someone’s plate to get something. You

should say, “Will you please pass the salt?”

O. Never start eating off of your tray until you are at your seat.

P. When we are eating at a restaurant, you are not to begin

eating until everyone at the table has received food.

Q. You should never complain if the line is too long, the food isn’t

good, or if there is a wait. You don’t want to be negative to the

point where you spoil the enjoyment of the event for others.

R. If you are unsure which silverware to use, simply start with the

fork, knife or spoon that is the farthest from your plate. On the

left, you will have your salad fork on the outside and your

dinner fork on the inside. On the far right, you will have your

soupspoon. Beside it you will have the spoon you will use to

stir your coffee or tea, then your salad knife, and then your

dinner knife. The utensils above your plate are to be used for

dessert.

S. When you are finished eating, do not push your plate away

from you. Leave it where it is in the setting. If you want to

show you have finished eating, you should lay your fork and

knife together diagonally across the plate. You should place

the fork with the tines down, and you should have the sharp

side of the knife facing down. Of the two utensils, the fork

should be closest to you.

T. Never place a piece of silverware that you have used back on

the table. Leave it on a plate or saucer.

U. If you didn’t use a utensil, do not place it on a plate or saucer

when you are finished. Just leave it where it is.

V. Always look a waiter in the eyes when you are ordering,

asking a question, or saying thank you.

W. Make a point to remember the waiter’s name when he

introduces himself to you. Use his name as often as possible

throughout the course of the meal.

X. If you have to go to the rest room, you should stand up and

say, “Excuse me,” as you leave the table.

Y. When you are offered desserts or asked a question such as

“What sides would you like?” or “What dressing would you like

for your salad?” it is best to ask, “What are my options?” That

way, you aren’t going through a process of naming things the

restaurant might not have.

Z. Never talk to waiters or waitresses as if they are servants.

Treat them with respect and kindness, and remember, they

are the ones who are fixing food and bringing it to you. You do

not want to be on the bad side of a waiter.”

Rule 30

“After we eat, we will clean up after ourselves. This includes

cleaning off the tables and making sure we haven’t left any

trash on the floor or around the eating area. It is important to

be responsible for your trash no matter where you are and to

be sure not to litter.”

Rule 31

"When we stay in a hotel room, it is appropriate to leave a tip

on the pillow for the hotel workers who are responsible for

cleaning the room after our stay. Two to three dollars per night

is an appropriate amount, depending on the cost of the room."

Rule 32

“When we ride on a bus, we will always sit facing forward. We

will never turn around to talk to other students, stick anything

out of the windows, or get out of our seats. When we exit the

bus, we will always thank the bus driver and tell him to have a

good day.”

Rule 33

"When we go on field trips, we will meet different people.

When I introduce you to people, make sure that you

remember their names. Then, when we are leaving, make

sure to shake their hands and thank them, mentioning their

names as you do so."

Rule 34

"Whenever you are offered food, whether it be on a buffet or

treats in class, never take more than your fair share. You

never want to be greedy and try to get more than you should,

not only because it is wasteful, but also because it is

disrespectful to others when you do not leave enough for

them."

Rule 35

"Whether we are in school or on a field trip, if someone drops

something, pick it up and hand it back to them. Even if they

are closer to the object, it is only polite to make the gesture of

bending down to retrieve the item."

Rule 36

“If you approach a door and someone is following you, hold

the door. If the door opens by pulling, pull it open, stand to the

side, and allow the other person to pass through it first, then

you can walk through. If the door opens by pushing, hold the

door open after you push through."

Rule 37

"If we are on a field trip, it is a good idea to compliment

something about the place where you are visiting. For

example, if we visit someone's home, it would be a nice

gesture to tell them that you think they have nice curtains.

People are always self-conscious when they have guests visit

their home, so you want to make them feel at ease. Also, if we

are visiting other places, such as a museum or theater, it

would be nice to comment on how beautiful the architecture is

or to tell the guide that you think the facility is very nice."

Rule 38

"During an assembly do not speak and do not look around

and try to get the attention of your friends in other classes. We

must uphold an image that shows we have our act together."

Rule 39

“If we are on a field trip, it is a good idea to compliment

something about the place where we are visiting. For

example, if we visit someone’s home, it would be a nice

gesture to tell them that you think they have nice curtains.

People are always self-conscious when they have guests visit

their home, so you want to make them feel at ease. Also, if we

are visiting other places, such as a museum or theater, it

would be nice to comment on how beautiful the architecture is

or to tell the guide that you think the facility is very nice.”

Rule 40

“During an assembly, do not speak and DO NOT look around

and try to get the attention of your friends in other classes. We

must uphold an image that shows we have out act together!”

Rule 41

“When you answer the phone at your house, you must do so

in an appropriate manner.”

Rule 42

“When we return from a trip, you will shake my hand as well

as the hands of every chaperone. You will thank us for taking

the time to take you on the trip, and you will let us know that

you appreciate having the opportunity to go. I am not

concerned with being thanked; I am concerned with teaching

you that is it appropriate to show appreciation when someone

has gone out of his or her way to help you.

Rule 43

“When we are on field trips and we have to go up escalators,

we will stand to the right. That will give other individuals who

are in a hurry the option of walking up the left-hand side of the

escalator. When we are going to enter an elevator, the

subway, or a doorway, we will wait for others to exit before we

enter."

Rule 44

"When in a line; walk single file, two to three feet behind the

person in front of you with your arms at your sides. You

should face forward at all times. There will be absolutely no

talking."

Rule 45

“Never cut line. If someone cuts in front of you, do not say or

do anything about it. Let it happen, but let me know about it. I

will handle the situation. If you fuss with someone who has cut

in line, you could get in trouble as well. It’s not worth it; just let

me know what happened. Please handle all disputes with

other classmates in the same manner, by coming to me with

any problems before you take matters into your own hands."

Rule 46

“When we go to a movie theater

Rule 47

"Do not bring Doritos in the school building."

Rule 48

"If any child in this school is bothering you, let me know. I am

your teacher, and I am here to look after you and protect you.

I am not going to let anyone in this school bully you or make

you feel uncomfortable. In return, I ask that you not take

matters into your own hands; let me deal with the student."

Rule 49

"Stand up for what you believe in. You shouldn't take no for an

answer if your heart and mind are leading you in a direction

that you feel strongly about."

Rule 50

"Be positive and enjoy life. Some things just aren't worth

getting upset over. Keep everything in perspective and focus

on the good in your life."

Rule 51

"Live so that you will never have regrets. If there is something you want to do, do it! Never let fear, doubt, or other obstacles stand in your way. If there is something you want, fight for it with all of your heart. If there is something you want to do, go for it and don's stop until you make it happen. If there is something you want to be, do whatever is necessary in order to live that dream."

Rule 52

“Accept that you are going to make mistakes. Learn from

them and move on.”

Rule 53

“No matter what the circumstances, always be honest. Even if you have done something wrong, it is best to admit it to me, because I will respect that, and oftentimes I will forget any disciplinary measures because of your honesty.”

Rule 54

“Carpe Diem. You only live today once, so don’t waste it. Life is made up of special moments, many of which happen when

caution is thrown to the wind and people take action and seize the day.”

Rule 55

“Be the best person you can be.”

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紫竹林 + 2 + 2 非常感谢,转到自己的贴里去,如果介意 ...
kalasi + 1 + 1 这个对孩子相当好,从具体的行为上进行 ...
helenminliang + 1 + 1 谢谢理解,虽然我自己有些思路,但这里 ...
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发表于 2013-2-17 10:57:03 | 只看该作者
人的道德是和行为素质挂钩的,已中国目前的情况来看,实在是长路漫漫啊。
其实西方国家很多道德都是建立在法律之上的,也就是以法为准则,很多事就比较好办,譬如你的那个午饭事件,该怎么办就怎么办,很自觉,也是因为不自觉不行。
包括装电风扇也是,规定要装的,那就必须装,但没有规定的,你再反映也没用。
但国内的环境是,规定要装的,可以拖着,找点借口之类的,如果没人反映那最好了。但没有规定的,如果反映很大,为了民生考虑,还是装了吧。
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-2-17 12:33:37 | 只看该作者
原帖由 jerryhao 于 2013-2-17 09:54 发表
关于楼主的问题,怎么培养孩子的道德,那就更难了,你说的是希望用中国古代的方法去做,还是用以往的所谓共产主义道德的方法去培养呢?


对共产主义道德方法我没有研究过,共产主义毕竟只是个意识形态,在私有制如此昌盛的现在,共产主义实在是遥远,我没有研究。并且,性善性恶就像天使和魔鬼一直并行在每个人的心中,要想完全做到没有黑暗,我觉得不大可能。

我一直觉得西方文化中好的一部分是充分考虑人的恶的一面,要压制,但会给它一个角落呆着别乱动。中国的文化是假装大家已经没有恶这个东西了,没有充分对敌人的了解就不知道怎么对付。教给孩子的时候不提我们的自私,妒忌是很正常的事情,但是不能让这些来完全控制我们,而是要用我们的理性来控制本能。

中国古代文化在我们这里是有断层的,我们这几年虽然捡起来了,但是好些还是以功利为目的的。其实我们真的能做到“己所不欲勿施于人”,整个社会就能上升一个层次了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-2-17 13:33:51 | 只看该作者

回复 #11 jerryhao 的帖子

我本以为是中国在经历农业经济到工业经济,百来年的时间走人家几百年的阵痛过程,有些混乱,加上批孔导致的断层,中空,外来文化的进入,融合,导致的价值观,世界观的混乱。

如果是这样,那还不至于太悲观。

或者是其他的原因呢?
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-2-19 20:01:02 | 只看该作者

飞机客舱中的大便

今天晚饭后全家散步,老公说到一则事情:有孩子在飞机过道中大便,完了妈妈帮擦屁股。听了有点晕,女儿也说看到了这新闻。当然首先死恶心了,我忙想当事人可能有苦衷:说不定飞机上的厕所不够用,孩子又急,大人没考虑周全。但是老公说飞机上有厕所。我也想要是真急,来不及排队,去和排在前面的人说一下,人家也会让他先上的啊。

实在想不出再能帮当事人时候啥话了,我说:飞机上的其他乘客干啥去啦?为啥不阻止?要是我在的话一定要说的。女儿说:那是~~,你是你呀~~

我对女儿说:这就是我们中国人啊,怨不得人家歧视我们。这样的行为,多一个,就在我们脸上抹了一道黑,再多一件,再抹一道。
女儿接着:然后脸就全黑了~~
我:以后你要是出去,人家拿那种眼神看你,不要气愤啊,我们是中国人,要承担中国人做的事情。
女儿:被瞧不起还是很难受的。

然后女儿和我聊她这两天看的《傅雷传》:傅雷在法国也受到歧视,穿着整齐被认为是日本人,中国人是不会穿成那样的~~~~

[ 本帖最后由 helenminliang 于 2013-2-19 20:03 编辑 ]
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发表于 2013-2-19 21:55:51 | 只看该作者
我们春节在西班牙玩时,也遇到过几次人家问我们是否曰本人,我想东亚国家中,因日本人去欧洲旅行的人更早些罢。

当然国人进入工商社会的时间还很短,许多行为习惯尚停留在农耕时期,所以与现今世界主流格格不入。其实去看看香港、台湾,一样是华人,人家与主流的融入度就高很多,大陆体量大,这个过程会很缓慢。
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发表于 2013-2-19 22:00:23 | 只看该作者
今日在网上开到的一段话:
中国什么进步的最快,什么倒退的最深?认真思考后不难发现:凡是表面看得见的,进步的最快,比如道路、高楼、照明等;凡是看不见的,社会倒退的最深,比如文化、信仰、道德等。外国人初到中国,往往赞叹有加,但住的时间越长,负面评价越多。五千年的国家依然靠谎言前进,不能不说这是一个悲哀!

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ww_dm + 3 + 3 在中国最流行的服装品牌都是在领子、胸 ...

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 楼主| 发表于 2013-2-20 13:57:10 | 只看该作者

回复 #17 Martina-Mm 的帖子

高楼,道路这些建设得好我能理解一些,毕竟是经济上升期,投资加大,捂着地产这个金蛋,道路建设的投入也是借助GDP考核的东风,政府资金使用效率在50%左右,哈哈。

好像上面考核官员以前不讲和谐发展的,现在提上来了。会不会真正进步,只有等着看。

至于谎言,女儿的一个外教说,美国人大多数人都撒谎,然后他就不住美国,来中国。我也不知道是不是他不能辨别中国人是否撒谎,或者他的活动范围的狭窄使得他周围的人对他撒谎的少。

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三人同舟 + 2 + 2 这个老美一定是说谎话的那种美国人:)

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发表于 2013-2-23 20:36:45 | 只看该作者
这两天,网上热议李双江之子~~李天一再次被刑拘。这条吸引眼球的新闻传递了这样一个警讯:无论是家庭教育还是学校教育,做人的道德教育比任何知识技能教育重要得多。如果培养出的孩子连社会基本法律法规都𣎴懂得尊守,一切知识技能全部白搭!

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helenminliang + 2 + 2 咱继续讨论啊

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 楼主| 发表于 2013-2-23 20:53:28 | 只看该作者

回复 #19 Martina-Mm 的帖子

刚好我泡在网上,老公和我说李双江的事情,这个儿子,是老来和年轻妻子生的儿子,不但宠儿子,也宠妻子,结果全宠坏了。根源呢,也还是贪图美色(不知道可不可以这样说),没有控制好自己的“欲”,一个人的财富,社会地位的增长,很容易滋生矫情,认不清自己,不知道什么可为,什么不可为,毁了自己的声誉,可惜。

我家婆也宠孩子,因为她年轻的时候没有父母宠爱,所以她就宠自己的孩子,两孩子虽未被完全宠坏,但是自私心理方面还是很重,至少和我比起来。
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