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[观点看台] 孩子学英语要不要从歌谣开始

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发表于 2009-1-9 10:15:04 | 只看该作者
楼上的说得非常精彩!希望你多留言。
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发表于 2009-1-9 10:18:12 | 只看该作者
什么事都不是绝对的................
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发表于 2009-1-9 10:50:39 | 只看该作者
每个做父母的养育第一个孩子,估计都有点摸着石头过河的感觉,多听取多借鉴别人的经验,就可以少走点弯路吧。不过家长都要有个清醒的认识,每个孩子都是独一无二的,自己的孩子还是要自己多摸索,多总结,找到适合自家的方法。方法无对错之分,关键是适合不适合自己的孩子。

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-1-12 02:28:39 | 只看该作者
原帖由 glgmm 于 2009-1-9 10:50 发表
每个做父母的养育第一个孩子,估计都有点摸着石头过河的感觉,多听取多借鉴别人的经验,就可以少走点弯路吧。不过家长都要有个清醒的认识,每个孩子都是独一无二的,自己的孩子还是要自己多摸索,多总结,找到适 ...


是。不过麻烦的是,自己孩子身上取得的经验,实际上自己是用不上的。
因为等到你有经验了,孩子又长大了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-1-12 02:33:22 | 只看该作者
原帖由 joanie802 于 2009-1-9 10:15 发表
楼上的说得非常精彩!希望你多留言。



谢谢,我会的。

[ 本帖最后由 dragon_youth 于 2009-1-12 02:34 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-1-12 02:46:59 | 只看该作者
原帖由 dczqzme 于 2009-1-6 01:40 发表
我个人觉得歌谣不错,至少我的孩子乐于接受。
我试着教她ABCD字母及发音,不到两分钟她就没了兴趣。
只有孩子能够接受的方法才是最好的方法。


对呀,歌谣里面又有发音,又有字母
你顺便不就教给他发音和字母了吗。
单独教的话,不要说她,给你你也会烦的。

我学了(姑且称之为是学吧)四种语言,也没有从字母学起(跟英文一个语系的语言),也没有耐烦去记字母表。是在工作中边干边学的。十几年前的事了,好像是用了半个月吧,从来没有碰过法语(接待法国客户捡到的一句半句的不算)翻着法语的语法书和法汉字典,把一个翻译干的不合格的设备的中翻法改成了合格的文件。很是担心。因为我不可能找到一个人来为我鉴定是否可用了。那个翻译总算是没有出事。不过你现在让我念法语字母表我还是念不下来。总弄不清那几个小犄角是往左还是往右。好笑的是,我居然还带出了几个这些小语种的翻译。
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发表于 2009-1-12 08:52:35 | 只看该作者
确实说得很对,能否再进一步阐明一下。谢谢

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发表于 2009-1-12 09:48:03 | 只看该作者
楼主关于“在输入阶段引导他习惯于分辨细节”等论点受启发。

感觉没必要要争执对错,有用的吸收,有不同观点讨论。

因为出发点都是为了孩子。

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-1-13 00:36:40 | 只看该作者
原帖由 traceyusa 于 2009-1-12 09:48 发表
楼主关于“在输入阶段引导他习惯于分辨细节”等论点受启发。

感觉没必要要争执对错,有用的吸收,有不同观点讨论。

因为出发点都是为了孩子。



这才是句实在话。
我不过提一个醒。

你夏天穿棉袄,我劝你少穿。
因为你不懂,所以我告诉你。

你爱听,就享福了。
你不爱听,就捂痱子去。
谁也没有逼着你干什么。

干什么跟碰到了某个痛感神经似的。
是不是背后有些什么呢?
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发表于 2009-1-13 00:49:05 | 只看该作者
原帖由 dragon_youth 于 2009-1-9 08:56 发表
千万不要wanna,这是黑人的语言,用中国的情景来理解,就是民工的语言(不是职业歧视)。是拼写迁就于发音不准的读音的表现。早年间黑人不识字,又模仿不清白人的发音,于是杜撰出了这么个拼写,于是在黑人这个阶层流传开来。随着他们的子女逐渐融入美国的主流社会,把这样的拼写传播开来。这个不能不力于rock and rolll 音乐的流行和黑人歌手的传播。(也可以算是读写障碍症的自我解决办法吧)。当初不知道什么什么什么玩意儿教的你这些玩意儿。看到了这么多以wanna为地道的中国人,这也是我跳下来教英语的原因之一。 ...


这位梁老师不会连wanna是美国人最常用,最地道口语都不知道吧。
即便没出过国,有时间统计一下“老友记”,还有“欲望都市”,里面到处都是wanna,那演的可都是白人的生活,说的是最地道的美国英语。

我统计了一下《老友记》第一季中wanna出现的频率,一共出现81次之多。

附统计结果:

Chandler, can I just say something? I-I know you're still mad atme, I just wanna say that there were two people there that night.
Joey, if I go first, I wanna be looking for my keys.
Phoebe, could you do me a favour? Could you try this on? I just wanna make sure it fits.
Hey Pheebs, you wanna help?
Uh, so, uh, Rach, uh... do you wanna save this wrapping paper,I mean, it's only a little bit torn... so are you gonna go for it with Ross or should I just throw it out?
Look , I'm sorry, guys, I just don't wanna give them any more ammunition than they already have.
No, yeah, no, ok, but not yet. I don't wanna seem too eager.
Keep the change. Sure you don't wanna pretzel?
Okay, look, the restaurant called, they wanna know if you're gonna be showing up for work?
Uh, ah. Unless you wanna stay over? I mean, I'm going to, so...
Tell her, David. 'I don't wanna go to Minsk and work with Lifson and Yamaguchi and Flench, on nonononononono.
Yeah, so, uh, so, uh, what's the deal with this father guy, I mean, if someone was havin' my baby somewhere, I'd wanna know about it, you know?
Well, you may wanna rethink the dirty underwear.
Might wanna try Joseph.
Maybe they wanna sign me!
She buys tickets for plays that I wanna see.
And today I just stopped and I said, 'What if I don't wanna be a shoe? What if I wanna be a- a purse, y'know? Or a- or a hat!
and you have to go because you don't wanna start the new year with me if you can't finish it.
So you don't wanna go to Williamsburg?
You might wanna put the kids to bed for this one.
Ok, um, basically you wanna use one machine for all your whites, a whole nother machine for colors, and a third for your uh, your uh, delicates, and that would be your bras and your under-panty things.
You wanna watch Laverne y Shirley?
Wait, did you get to the part about his 'huge throbbing pens'? Tell ya, you don't wanna be around when he starts writing with those.
You guys wanna get some coffee?
Does, um, anyone wanna see?
You guys wanna try and catch a late movie or something?
Are you sure? Great. Carol? Wanna come over and join us?
You know, now you're more like, you know like, Mr. Caring Boss,Mr., you know, I'm one of you, Boss,Mr., I wanna be your buddy, Boss Man Bing.
Listen, uh, you wanna go get a drink or something?
You wanna go to Newark?
You want me to actually throw you or you-you wanna just hop?
Do you want to go to the bathroom, or do you wanna play poker?
So you wanna tell us now, or are we waiting for four wet bridesmaids?
Well, you may wanna steer clear of the word 'dumped'.
Might wanna open with the snowman.
Oh, I wanna see! Lemme see! Lemme see!
If you wanna put a label on it.
If I wanna walk around my apartment in my underwear, I shouldn't have to feel like-
What?3!2! What, you wanna spell it out with noodles?
Somebody wanna help me, tryin' to rip out my heart.
I wouldn't wanna be there when when the laughter stops.
'That' would be Marcel. You wanna say hi?
Look, they just wanna see if you're okay.
They wanna know if I'm okay. Okay2! they wanna know if I'm okay,
He's in the bathroom. I don't think you wanna go in there!
And listen, man, if you wanna be gay, be gay.
Why? Why would you wanna... do that?Why?
I don't want to be single, okay? I just3! I just- I just wanna be married again!
Eww, I don't wanna do that.
I didn't wanna leave him alone. Alright?
Look, I don't wanna make any trouble, okay, but I'm in a lot of pain here, alright? My face is dented.
I don't even wanna hear it, you're just...
I don't wanna hear it. Now go to my room.
I don't know, you don't wanna mess with corn nuts.
I-I'd better get going, I don't wanna miss the last train.
Oh, but, could we not go together? I,I don't wanna be the geekthat invited the boss.
Hey, listen, I wanna borrow a coupla things, Aurora spent the night, I really wanna make her breakfast.
I wanna look nice.
I wanna be buried at sea, it looks like fun.
I wanna stay here and make out with my girlfriend!!'
I don't even wanna know about the dark cheese.
Look, I know he's not perfect, but the truth is, at the end of the day, I still really wanna be Mrs. Dr.Barry Farber, D.D.S.
Uh, listen, I just wanna thank you for this great opportunity.
Just wanna check my horoscope, see if it was right.
"I just wanna go back to my cell. 'Cause in my cell, I can smoke."
I just- I just wanna be with him all the time.
I just wanna clarify this:are you outing Mr. Peanut?
When my time comes, I wanna be buried at sea.
It's fine, it's fine. Look, do you wanna get this part, or not? Here.
So, you gals wanna hand over your money now? That way, we don'thave to go through the formality of actually playing.
Oh, you uh, you wanna hear a freaky coincidence? Guess who's doing laundry there too?
Thanks, hi. Um, I wanna start with a song that means a lot to me this time of year.
Because he said he didn't wanna be around... anything that looked like either one of us.
Oh, and there would just be all this pressure, and I don't wanna...
Does anybody wanna split this with me?
Anybody wanna trade? Oh...
You wanna explain that?
Okay, before you do anything Joey-like, you might wanna run it by err...
This guy says hello, I wanna kill myself.
Okay, it's his first time out, so he's probably gonna wannado some of the touristy things.
Anyway, I'm gonna be gone for like, uh... like a week, so, uh, if you wanna reach me, y-you can't.

[ 本帖最后由 老易 于 2009-1-13 01:52 编辑 ]
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