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作者: 前车之鉴    时间: 2004-6-11 22:54
标题: 谁知道我儿子得的什么病?
我儿子在奔跑后,剧烈活动后,就会咳嗽,贴着背听,胸口有哨声,直至睡着,很难受的,可我也不知如何是好,医生说不要剧烈活动,孩子不肯呀,怎么办?各位,帮帮忙!
作者: jijijiyaya    时间: 2004-6-11 23:05
孩子多大呀?听你说的应该是哮喘或是气管痉挛,真的不要剧烈活动!!
如果平时没这种症状,可以不用太担心,如果平时也有,真要注意,去医院详细检查一下。
作者: zwnzwn    时间: 2004-6-11 23:15
似乎有运动性哮喘这一说法,去医院呼吸内科看看,也有慢性咽炎可能。
作者: 前车之鉴    时间: 2004-6-12 20:13
谢谢各位!儿子七岁半,小时候有过敏性哮喘,好了,难道现在真不让孩子运动了?做详细的肺功能检查,是什么概念?透视?还是别的?
作者: edatay    时间: 2004-6-12 22:58
It sounds that you child is suffering from exercise induced asthma.
In westen world, those children who are suffering from exercise induced asthma, are encourage to continue their activities after they have taken some drug to prevent the asthma. So consult your pediatrician.  
You can use some medication to prevent the exercise induced asthma before child take part in vigorous exercise.
作者: 前车之鉴    时间: 2004-6-13 00:03
edatay+-->引用:edatay It sounds that you child is suffering from exercise induced asthma.
In westen world, those children who are suffering from exercise induced asthma, are encourage to continue their activities after they have taken some drug to prevent the asthma. So consult your pediatrician.  
You can use some medication to prevent the exercise induced asthma before child take part in vigorous exercise.


对不起,我看不懂,您能翻译一下吗?谢谢!
作者: xuxminr    时间: 2004-6-13 04:21
看他还没回, 我先帮您翻一下. 不贴切还请后来者指教. 大意是: 听起来你儿子患的是由运动引起的诱发性哮喘.  在西方, (医生)鼓励患运动诱发性哮喘的孩子在服用预防哮喘的药物后继续运动. 对此你应该请教儿科医生.  你可以在孩子进行剧烈运动以前先给他服用预防运动诱发性哮喘的药物.  
前车之鉴+-->引用:前车之鉴 对不起,我看不懂,您能翻译一下吗?谢谢!
It sounds that you child is suffering from exercise induced asthma.In westen world, those children who are suffering from exercise induced asthma, are encourage to continue their activities after they have taken some drug to prevent the asthma. So consult your pediatrician. You can use some medication to prevent the exercise induced asthma before child take part in vigorous exercise.
作者: 前车之鉴    时间: 2004-6-13 07:59
在这里感受到的温暖太多,让我心潮澎湃。多些各位!

那么请问现在什么预防药物是最可取的?适应我儿子?我们这里的医生总是对待病人的询问置之不理,或敷衍了事,这也是我请教各位的原因!

再次感谢!
作者: edatay    时间: 2004-6-13 10:42
Thank you very much for Xuxminr's excellent translation.
I'm sorry for I don't know how to input Chinese character.
I don't think it is a wise way to give any medication to your child before you consult your pediatrician.
I can only give you suggestion base on your information. It may be totally wrong.
Your child need to be confirmed the diagnosis by your doctor.

Or other Drs on this forum will give you suggestion.

I hope Xuxminr will translate this mail again to help you understand.

Comments are always welcome.
作者: 前车之鉴    时间: 2004-6-13 12:41
亲爱的朋友,在您面前我实在感到惭愧,为什么我的英语知识那么贫瘠!
作者: 小牛2000    时间: 2004-6-13 14:11
Xuxminr没在,我看到了帮一下,翻译的不好,请dear edatay见谅!
。。。(感谢Xuxminr的)
对不起,我不知道怎样输入汉字。(小牛按:不是故意卖弄)
我认为你在没有请教儿科医生之前就给你儿子用药是不明智的。
我也只是根据你的述说给出建议,也许根本不对。
你儿子的病情还是需要来医生确诊。
或者,论坛里其他医生会再给你些建议。

。。。(希望有人帮译)
作者: 小牛2000    时间: 2004-6-13 14:13
前车之鉴+-->引用:前车之鉴 亲爱的朋友,在您面前我实在感到惭愧,为什么我的英语知识那么贫瘠!
你装个金山词霸,自己就能看了!
有些卖弄,勿见怪!
作者: xuxminr    时间: 2004-6-13 14:56
我不是学医的, 不能提供很多信息给你. 今天到美国一个医疗研究中心的网站上看了看, 摘录了一些基本的知识并翻译了一下, 希望能帮助你了解一下国外是如何诊治运动诱发型哮喘的, 也希望你儿子早点好起来. 另外, 你到www.google.com上输入运动诱发哮喘也可以了解很多国内这方面的研究及治疗.   我英文一般, 所以附了原文. 如有不当, 请后来者纠正.  运动诱发性哮喘: 运动会导致哮喘症状加剧, 我们称之为运动诱发性哮喘. 近80%的哮喘病患者运动后会呈现哮喘症状加剧.有效的治疗和护理可以使运动性哮喘症患者不受限制地进行体力活动或者其喜欢的运动.Exercise-Induced Asthma Exercise can make asthma symptoms worse.This is called exercise-induced asthma. Exercise can cause asthmasymptoms in up to 80 percent of people with asthma. Treatment andmonitoring can allow people with exercise-induced asthma toparticipate fully in the physical activity or exercise of theirchoice. 如何知道自己患有运动诱发型哮喘?一部分人在开始运动后3-8分钟内出现哮喘症状.也有一部分在停止运动后出现哮喘症状.较多的情况是开始运动后出现哮喘症状并在停止运动后哮喘症状加剧.运动诱发型哮喘的症状一般有: 咳嗽, 呼吸困难, 气短, 胸部发紧. HowWill I Know If I Have Exercise-Induced Asthma? For some people,exercise-induced asthma occurs within three to eight minutes ofstarting activity or exercise. For others, exercise-induced asthmaoccurs after stopping exercise. Often the exercise-induced asthmastarts during exercise and worsens when exercise stops. The mostcommon symptoms of exercise-induced asthma are: Coughing WheezingShortness of breath Chest tightness 一些人察觉不到上述症状但容易感觉累, 很难跟上别人.区分体质差和运动诱发型哮喘很重要.体质好的人,上述症状只在非常剧烈的活动或运动下发生. Some people arenot aware of these symptoms but know they tire easily and have ahard time keeping up with others. It is important to recognize thedifference between poor conditioning and exercise-induced asthma.In well-conditioned athletes, symptoms of exercise-induced asthmamay only occur with the most vigorous activity or exercise. 想一下你在运动时的感觉. 你是否容易疲劳, 咳嗽, 气喘?提供这些信息给你的医疗员. 他们会询问你的哮喘病史并作体能测试.你可能还会被要求作一次运动考验来帮助诊断运动诱发型哮喘.在运动考验过程中, 你或步行或骑踏车或自行车做运动, 并时不时重复做呼吸测试.这些信息将被医疗人员用来了解运动是否导致你的哮喘症状加剧. Thinkabout how you feel when you exercise. Do you tire easily or coughand wheeze? Share this information with your health care provider.Your health care provider will ask you questions about your asthmaand do a physical exam. He or she may also order a test called anexercise challenge to help diagnose exercise-induced asthma. Anexercise challenge may be done in your doctor's office or thehospital. During an exercise challenge, you will walk or run on atreadmill or ride an exercise bicycle and perform repeatedbreathing tests. Using this information, your health care providerwill be able to understand if exercise can make your asthmasymptoms worse. 如何治疗运动诱发型哮喘? 治疗运动诱发型哮喘有一种简单而有效的办法.医疗人员可能会开"预防药物", "预防药物"是在运动前吸入的药物.吸用预防药物后, 哮喘患者一般可以安全和成功地参与他们喜欢的运动.预防药物可以在运动过程中以及运动后预防哮喘发作.用于预防治疗的吸入式药物有: 沙丁胺醇, 无氯氟烷的沙丁胺醇, 喘乐宁 (总之是沙丁胺醇,据说左旋沙丁胺醇比右旋沙丁胺醇效果好, 无氯氟烷的刺激性小,我在网上查的, 你可以自己查查看.) Pirbuterol 吡布特罗[支气管扩张药]. How Is Exercise-Induced Asthma Treated? There is a simple andeffective way of treating exercise-induced asthma. Your healthcare provider may prescribe a "pre-treatment." A pre-treatment isa medicine that is inhaled before exercise. By using a prescribedpre-treatment, people with asthma are often able to participatesafely and successfully in the exercise they enjoy. Apre-treatment can prevent asthma symptoms during and afterexercise. Examples of inhaled medicines often used as apre-treatment includeroventil, Proventil HFA?, Ventolin? (albuterol) Maxair?(pirbuterol)  这些药物一般在运动前10-15分钟内吸用, 能够保持呼吸通畅以预防哮喘.请与医疗人员讨论这些药物的使用(注意事项). These medicines are often prescribed 10 to 15 minutes beforeexercise and quickly open the airways to prevent asthma symptoms.Discuss the use of a pre-treatment with your health care provider. 何种运动与运动诱发型哮喘有益? 间歇性运动/活动不易导致哮喘症状.活动中的短时间休息能使哮喘患者较好的控制呼吸. 棒球, 垒球, 排球,网球 及一些田径运动均间有短时间的休息. (此处有另一个链接, 讲的是寒冷的天气哮喘更容易发作, 冬天控制哮喘是哮喘控制的关键) WhatSports Are Best for People with Exercise-Induced Asthma? Sports oractivities with bursts of activity are least likely to causeasthma symptoms. Activities followed by brief rest periods canallow the person to regain control of their breathing. Activitiessuch as baseball, softball, volleyball, tennis, downhill skiing,golf and some track and field events all have brief rest periods.  连续性运动如游泳, 骑自行车, 长跑,足球等也是运动诱发型哮喘患者的选择. 不管是哪一种运动,通常都需要预先吸用药物并密切监控. 在适当的治疗和密切的监控下,好的热身及一个缓和平静期会很有帮助.Sports that require continuousactivity like swimming, cycling, distance running and soccer alsocan be enjoyed by people with exercise-induced asthma.Participation in any sport often requires use of a pre-treatmentbefore exercise and close monitoring. Along with appropriatetreatment and close monitoring, a good warm-up and cool-downperiod are often helpful.
作者: 前车之鉴    时间: 2004-6-13 19:55
非常感谢,我儿子确实在冬天症状重,前天好像是因为喝了饮料,然后又风跑了好一阵,晚上闹了很久,咳嗽,呼吸有哨声,困难,直至睡着,可第二天就好了,问题是好了以后再看医生还能诊断出来吗?
作者: xuxminr    时间: 2004-6-14 08:12
查到一个可以提交电子病例的网页, 是北京红十字会国泰医院的, 可以免费提交病情调查表, 两天以内有专家负责会诊, 并制定出个性化的治疗方案(没看到要收钱), 然后可以邮寄药品(要钱的, 不用问, 我看到他们网上的一个病例是9岁的孩子, 3岁时患哮喘, 长期服用支气管扩张药维持, 服药该院药物两个疗程后不再复发, 一个疗程( 大约1400圆药费)两个月), 并提供全程康复指导. 有条件的话, 他们鼓励直接去门诊. (按原文: 对路途遥远、不便前来的患者,专设电子医务会诊中心,每天由专家组针对网上提交的电子病历,根据患者的病情,提供远程会诊、保密治疗。(数千通过患者通过远程会诊治疗证明,只要您叙述的病情清楚无误,并将以前的诊断及检查结果一并发来,网上就诊效果与来医院就诊效果一样。但,我们提倡患者第一次最好来医院面诊,这样患者及家属可以对医院进一步的了解,增强康复信心,也便于负责医生全面了解患者病情。) 他们的网址是: http://www.xchline.com/naoke/menzheng1.asp 去了解一下也好. (我人在加拿大, 并不了解这个医院, 也不为他们宣传, 仅供你参考)
作者: xuxminr    时间: 2004-6-16 08:27
能的, 你去哮喘专科看看. 你家在哪儿?




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